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Topic: Clumsy Awkward & Stiff (Read 1126 times)
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Re: Clumsy Awkward & Stiff
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RIP spudnik. pma's to dan and other pals/family.
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Re: Clumsy Awkward & Stiff
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Quote from: Awful Sir Rick Rolls on March 10, 2010, 09:27:05 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Town on March 10, 2010, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Awful Sir Rick Rolls on March 10, 2010, 09:09:51 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Town on March 10, 2010, 09:07:51 AM
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Are you asking why a guy whose career was nearly derailed by a rival wouldn't go for a plan that includes an exact duplicate of him? I'm not saying that not wanting a rival is the greatest reason to kill yourself every night, but it is A reason, and one that goes with his life experiences to some extent, no?
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No, he's a ruthless bastard, not a masochist.
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Did they ever indicate the duplicate had the experiences of dying? I don't think they did. Functionally, for the clone, it is the same as being teleported, except for the knowledge that he is actually a duplicate whose original is elsewhere dying. That's not masochism at all, if you don't have to experience the death yourself.
Even the use of the word "clone" is probably off here, as these are duplicates, not clones. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]Wolverine gets into the duplicating machine, then his duplicate appears in the balcony, then Wolverine goes through a trap door into a tank of water and DROWNS. When Wolverine does the trick, he DIES. That is suicide.
The duplicate does not experience the death, BUT he makes the same decision to kill himself the NEXT show.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Yeah, but his decision to "kill himself" includes the knowledge that he will live on as an exact duplicate with the same consciousness, no memory of the dying, and all of the acclaim from an impossibly excellent trick.
I think you're giving much more import to the "but it's not really him, it's a duplicate" viewpoint than the character himself does. The man standing at the end of the trick, is the same guy, whether he was born that or generated. He's not a clone, he's an exact duplicate with the same consciousness and memories. Obviously, Wolverine views the duplicate's life as being a direct continuation of the original life, not a shadowy knockoff or echo. So for all intents and purposes, he isn't killing himself, just sacrificing one of two identical versions of himself in a way that brings no pain or even discomfort to the version left standing.
We're dealing with a world where one magician will chop off his own fingers to make a trick believable, but you can't buy that a guy could kill one of his
two identical bodies
even if he doesn't have to feel it or remember it?[/spoiler]
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Re: Clumsy Awkward & Stiff
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Oh, hey Kurt, did you get the message I sent about Pavement?
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Doug Gillard has a new record out and is touring with a band. They play here May 15th. May have to check that out.
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Re: Clumsy Awkward & Stiff
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Quote from: Bozo Sapiens on March 10, 2010, 08:43:20 AM
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I've always wondered what that song was about.
nothing.
Words cobbled together because they sound cool, right? A bit like most Hollywood movies: scenes loosely cobbled together because they look cool.
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Quote from: Bozo Sapiens on March 10, 2010, 11:20:22 AM
A bit like most Hollywood movies: scenes loosely cobbled together because they look cool.
Show that dead horse who's boss, Dan.
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Aaaaannnnd a new smiley:
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I fully understand that my repetitive nature and many hobby horses will make me the prime target for this new smiley.
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Friend of mine just digitzed and posted
Meringue: Music From the Mint Green Nest
The greatest piece of wax to ever come out of Florida. High High High Recommend.
They asked me to help mix it back in the 90s, which I said "sure" thinking it'd be a fun weekend project. But then they started layering in all this intricate layered guitars and eventually orchestrations. It wound up taking 6 months of weekends.
Eventually I conned the two guitarists into forming Leels with me.
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Re: Clumsy Awkward & Stiff
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Quote from: Dirty Old Town on March 10, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Quote from: Bozo Sapiens on March 10, 2010, 11:20:22 AM
A bit like most Hollywood movies: scenes loosely cobbled together because they look cool.
Show that dead horse who's boss, Dan.
As demonstrated by your argument over Wolverine, the horse was merely moribund. I thought I should put it out of his misery.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7403932/Woman-gives-birth-three-hours-after-finding-she-was-pregnant.html
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you don't know you're pregnant until a few hours before delivering a full-term baby, you're a fat fucking moron.
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Quote from: Dirty Old Town on March 10, 2010, 12:04:28 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7403932/Woman-gives-birth-three-hours-after-finding-she-was-pregnant.html
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you don't know you're pregnant until a few hours before delivering a full-term baby, you're a fat fucking moron.
I'd say that the hospital she visited numerous times carries some blame too.
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http://www.youtube.com/v/4jyqEMR6cPc
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