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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2010, 09:14:28 AM »

Sad news: an internet friend of mine (a fellow music gear geek) just passed away.  You know why he passed away? Because he was american, and too poor to afford healthcare.  He had been suffering from flu like symptoms for the last week, and because of his limited finances, he refused to go see a doctor.  

That sucks, Dan.

On a thankfully much more minor but related note, Simon had a huge fever yesterday, so we took him in to see the doctor. Mama, who is used to socialized medicine, was appalled that we waited 90 minutes to be seen. "Nici in Romania!" (Never in Romania!)
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2010, 09:15:07 AM »

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Are you asking why a guy whose career was nearly derailed by a rival wouldn't go for a plan that includes an exact duplicate of him? I'm not saying that not wanting a rival is the greatest reason to kill yourself every night, but it is A reason, and one that goes with his life experiences to some extent, no?
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No, he's a ruthless bastard, not a masochist.  

One thing that annoys me when clones are used as plot devices is that they are almost always presented as exact copies, when in fact, they should be like twins.  If they are exact copies, with the same memories and personality, you need to explain that!  
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2010, 09:15:45 AM »

and I breathe light

I've always wondered what that song was about. 

nothing.
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2010, 09:17:35 AM »

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Are you asking why a guy whose career was nearly derailed by a rival wouldn't go for a plan that includes an exact duplicate of him? I'm not saying that not wanting a rival is the greatest reason to kill yourself every night, but it is A reason, and one that goes with his life experiences to some extent, no?
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No, he's a ruthless bastard, not a masochist.  
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Did they ever indicate the duplicate had the experiences of dying? I don't think they did. Functionally, for the clone, it is the same as being teleported, except for the knowledge that he is actually a duplicate whose original is elsewhere dying. That's not masochism at all, if you don't have to experience the death yourself.

Even the use of the word "clone" is probably off here, as these are duplicates, not clones. [/spoiler]
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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2010, 09:20:35 AM »

Sad news: an internet friend of mine (a fellow music gear geek) just passed away.  You know why he passed away? Because he was american, and too poor to afford healthcare.  He had been suffering from flu like symptoms for the last week, and because of his limited finances, he refused to go see a doctor.  

That sucks, Dan.

On a thankfully much more minor but related note, Simon had a huge fever yesterday, so we took him in to see the doctor. Mama, who is used to socialized medicine, was appalled that we waited 90 minutes to be seen. "Nici in Romania!" (Never in Romania!)

In most Montreal hospitals and clinics, we wouldn't probably have to wait 90 minutes.  It would probably be two or three hours.  But when it's the kids, we usually take a cab straight to the Montreal Children's hospital.  They usually take care of us quite fast.  



Still better than the US system.  




Is Simon ok? 

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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2010, 09:27:05 AM »

[spoiler]
Are you asking why a guy whose career was nearly derailed by a rival wouldn't go for a plan that includes an exact duplicate of him? I'm not saying that not wanting a rival is the greatest reason to kill yourself every night, but it is A reason, and one that goes with his life experiences to some extent, no?
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No, he's a ruthless bastard, not a masochist.  
[spoiler]
Did they ever indicate the duplicate had the experiences of dying? I don't think they did. Functionally, for the clone, it is the same as being teleported, except for the knowledge that he is actually a duplicate whose original is elsewhere dying. That's not masochism at all, if you don't have to experience the death yourself.

Even the use of the word "clone" is probably off here, as these are duplicates, not clones. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]Wolverine gets into the duplicating machine, then his duplicate appears in the balcony, then Wolverine goes through a trap door into a tank of water and DROWNS.  When Wolverine does the trick, he DIES.  That is suicide.

The duplicate does not experience the death, BUT he makes the same decision to kill himself the NEXT show.[/spoiler]
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« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2010, 09:31:35 AM »

Tripp, was that your FB post?   You heard the mastered tracks?
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« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2010, 09:33:04 AM »

[spoiler]Jeff, don't think about it from the duplicates perspective.  Think about it from the original's perspective.  That is what I'm talking about.[/spoiler]
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« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2010, 09:34:19 AM »

[spoiler]
Are you asking why a guy whose career was nearly derailed by a rival wouldn't go for a plan that includes an exact duplicate of him? I'm not saying that not wanting a rival is the greatest reason to kill yourself every night, but it is A reason, and one that goes with his life experiences to some extent, no?
[/spoiler]

No, he's a ruthless bastard, not a masochist.  

One thing that annoys me when clones are used as plot devices is that they are almost always presented as exact copies, when in fact, they should be like twins.  If they are exact copies, with the same memories and personality, you need to explain that!  

That was the problem with the plot of [spoiler]Moon.  How do you grow clones with all that and the same tattoo?[/spoiler]
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« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2010, 09:37:34 AM »

Ha, really?   Tattoo?
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« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2010, 09:38:46 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/PQDuuoSGWxY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/PQDuuoSGWxY</a>
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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2010, 09:41:56 AM »

Tripp, was that your FB post?   You heard the mastered tracks?

4 of them..
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« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2010, 09:46:45 AM »

nice!   You like?    What speakers did you hear them on?
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« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2010, 09:52:13 AM »

Evil speakers blow my circuits---Oh no!
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« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2010, 09:54:08 AM »

well,  Burt (from the label) emailed me 4 mp3's and I listened to them on my computer here at work..  What I could really tell was that he got the bass under control and everything was well-balanced.  I need to take it home and crank it..
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