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« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2009, 12:03:51 AM »


i say it's a sneaky strategy. we wants them to be released, but he's scared of the political consequences of being the one to authorize it, especially "against the advise of the commanders on the ground"  so he forces the media/aclu/etc. to demand it. and eventually, they win. i guarantee you, we will see all of these photos within a year.  they'll leak out a few at a time, like these.    obama knows that, and he knows that eventually, we will get our trials. the world will demand it.  and there will be some convictions and some acquittals. and some that escape responsibility all together. but no one can pin the "witchhunt" on him, thus salvaging his "new kind of politics".   it's a win-win,  except for the beating he's gonna take from the left for a bit.  that too, will pass come 2012.
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« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2009, 09:15:44 AM »

His expanded and escalated "good war" in Afghanistan-Pakistan claimed more than 140 civilians last week (of that number 93 were children) and there is every indication that his criminal foreign policy (esp. pushing Pakistan over the edge) could lead to more death and destruction than that of Bush-Cheney.

I truly despise Barack Obama (possibly more than Bush-Cheney - likely due to the fact that I feel I am expected to be soft on Obama cause of his skin tone) and I hope that his administration is destroyed in 2012 (or earlier, if possible).

The left does not support him, and I doubt that they will come 2012 - but Republican-Light Liberals (his base) will.
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« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2009, 09:32:28 AM »

just to clarify,  my above post was only half serious.  and if that WERE his sneaky strategy, i'm not suggesting that his motive is justice, rather entirely political.  although i'm not about to concede that his foreign policy will trump bush-cheney in terms of atrocity.  that jury is still out. 
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« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2009, 10:07:08 AM »

although i'm not about to concede that his foreign policy will trump bush-cheney in terms of atrocity.  that jury is still out. 

His foreign policy is claiming hundreds (if not thousands) of lives each week at a rate far greater than the last two years of the Bush Presidency. While Iraq is again spinning out of control this jump in body count is largely due to Obama's genocidal escalation* in Afghanistan and Pakistan, something that helped create half a million refugees (such a humanitarian calamity will result in an increase in infant mortality, violence, sickness, starvation and other miseries) in northwestern Pakistan.

My mentioning the possibility that Obama's atrocities might eclipse those of Bush-Cheney was intended only to highlight the potential for disaster. I had no intention to rank one presidency over the other - I see no point in such self-indulgences (which are necessarily clouded by political persuasion). This is what is happening now, and Obama is at the helm, a man who used his rhetorical flair to encourage the misconception that he was "anti-war" and markedly different from Bush and Cheney.

He isn't. Iraq is running the same course as it was when they left office (though it is again descending into bloody summer carnage) and he has started a 'new' war in Pakistan, one that has potential consequences far graver than Bush's messy removal of an unpopular dictator. 

* "genocidal" because it seems that the policy is to wipe out the Pashtun people. Much of the "Taliban" forces that they are killing are nothing more than tribesman who have been hired on as cannon fodder. Some provinces are reporting that more seventy percent of "Taliban fighters" are not ideologically aligned with the Taliban at all. Most are unemployed and impoverished farmers and laborers who are paid four dollars per attack.
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