On the Rodent

[Bizarro]

Just watched The Hoax. Pretty decent actually. Richard Gere as Clifford Irving, the guy who nearly fooled the world with a fake Howard Hughes autobiography. A little overlong, and sort of wears out its welcome at the end. But all in all, an odd little story, well-told.

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[Poop Fresh-Herbed Pickles]

Yeah The Hoax is a fun movie.

[Poop Fresh-Herbed Pickles]

I would say my favorite thing about Star Trek is the new cast and that's why I have hope for the franchise.

Yeah Kurtzman & Orci really disappointed with that script. They're not fit to write SF. They seem to have no idea what a black hole is.

Spock's behavior really bothered me. Particularly the horny scene on the teleporter. WTF?

And yeah just throw Kirk into the brig. Marooning him is insane.

[Poop Fresh-Herbed Pickles]

My mouth fell open over those two scenes.

[Jesse]

I just posted Tripp's points about Star Trek to another small board I frequent... Here's a short list that one of the geeks there posted today:

[spoiler]It isn't that the time travel stuff doesn't make sense. As far as such goes it was handled pretty well (though it isn't explained why sometimes the Red Matter black holes create time portals and other times it just destroys everything (unless Vulcan -- and Nero once again -- have simply been shipped to another time).

It is the rest of the story that is stupid: the fact that Spock alone was trying to save Romulus, that a mining ship is super armed and powerful, that once in the past Nero spends 25 years waiting for Spock so he can exact revenge rather than going to the still existing Romulus and beginning the process of saving it, that the entire Federation fleet is in the Lawrentian system but whatever the reason for that is, it goes unmentioned, that despite this there are a dozen uncrewed ships including the new flagship vessel just waiting to be crewed by the entire student population of Starfleet Academy, that Vulcan and Earth apparently have zero dedicated defences other than starships and yet still sent their entire fleet to one system off somewhere else, that Vulcan is just 8 minutes away from earth, that the entire idea of a spaceship is rendered obsolete by the super-teleportation deus ex machinaed into existence by Spock Prime. That even though Vulcan was about 8 minutes from Earth (or some ridiculously small number given by Checkhov in his shipwide mission briefing) Earth was at least a few hours from Vulcan (since that is how long it took the Enterprise to get back), that a moon orbiting Vulcan is somehow an isolated Federation outpost manned not by Vulcans but by a lone super-genius engineer and his own personal Muffit, that Nero put Spock on that moon rather than letting him watch from the Death Star so he could gloat, that a device that destroys through black holes apparently requires first digging a hole to the center of the object since a black hole simply put on the surface apparently wouldn't be destructive enough (and one wonders how exactly Spock was going to dig a hole to the center of a star so that he could save Romulus), that apparently Romulan miners like to keep their ship decks under several inches of water, that when an Academy cadet is particularly brave he will be given command of the flagship vessel of the fleet.[/spoiler]

[Jesse]

... and for the record, I could enumerate my problems with the movie, but as far as I was concerned there was one unforgivable one:

[spoiler]It was a mediocre movie that used our love for a set of characters as the bait, and then pulled the switcheroo by making them not those characters at all! Once Nero blows up Alderaan, I spent the rest of the movie wondering how they were going to fix the time/space continuum... and they just didn't. So the conceit of the movie is: pay your bucks for a rollicking show about how the ST:TOS crew met, and instead, we're given an alternate reality flick. I would have rather they just scrapped the whole backstory a la James Bond and started fresh. To bring in "bad denture Spock" to somehow justify their scrapping of the accepted Star Trek universe by acknowledging same is horse shit. And insulting.[/spoiler]

[Tripp]

exactly.

I think ultimately it's GRREAT PRIMER for the uninitiated..   


it did not need the time-travel aspect..  the 'passing of the torch'..  just tell the tale of how Kirk inherited the gig after Pike.. that's IT..

[Tripp]

I'm rewatching it right now.. got a rip from Sherm.

[Tripp]

essentially the reset is that all of Pike's adventures are now Kirk's.  I expect the sequel to be called either The Cage or The menagerie..

[Tripp]

it should just be a new tv show if it's gonna be this half-assed..

[Tripp]

oh yeah..


"Hi Christopher, I'm Nero.."

what the fuck..?

[Poop Fresh-Herbed Pickles]

a device that destroys through black holes apparently requires first digging a hole to the center of the object since a black hole simply put on the surface apparently wouldn't be destructive enough (and one wonders how exactly Spock was going to dig a hole to the center of a star so that he could save Romulus

The reasoning is the red element must combine with extreme mass to create a black hole (not that it makes the idea any smarter).

Spock wouldn't need to dig a hole in the the star because it's all gas.