Say Amir Khadir 20 times

[Poop Fresh-Herbed Pickles]

Feel better, Tripp.

[matthew]

You should see the conversations I have with my parents on this subject. I work myself into a tizzy to the point that I want to sever the land mass with my own two hands irregardless of the culture & language issues. It means something entirely different to my parents...and it is a strange and somewhat uncomfortable thing that their two children voted, for the second time in a row, for a party who platform includes provisions of sovereignty.

That said, I absolutely detest the nationalism involved in the sovereignty issue. Nothing particular about Quebec...nationalism has a tendency to be an ugly thing everywhere...anything that divides usually stems from an injustice.

[Doctor Rock]

bi-national

Bi-national.

[Doctor Rock]

You should see the conversations I have with my parents on this subject. I work myself into a tizzy to the point that I want to sever the land mass with my own two hands irregardless of the culture & language issues. It means something entirely different to my parents...and it is a strange and somewhat uncomfortable thing that their two children voted, for the second time in a row, for a party who platform includes provisions of sovereignty.

That said, I absolutely detest the nationalism involved in the sovereignty issue. Nothing particular about Quebec...nationalism has a tendency to be an ugly thing everywhere...anything that divides usually stems from an injustice.

In 1995, I voted no (for the USians: in 95 there was a referendum on Quebec independence, I voted against independence).  When the results came in, I thought: man, that was close!  Something must be done!  Some of Quebec's grievances must be acknowledged, there must be a way of bringing Quebec back into the fold, make Quebec sign the Canadian constitution, Quebec's particularities must be recognized... It has been 13 years, and nothing has happened.  Everything is as it was.   Considering what went on with the Conservatives recently, maybe even worse.  My increased sympathy for independence comes from that.  

There's also an increased feeling of alienation from the rest of Canada: in recent years, the economic and political power of western Canada has been on the rise, and, without excessive generalization, I can say that their values are much more to the right than those of eastern Canada, Quebec included. 

A few days ago, I read a comment from an Albertan where he referred to Quebec as a third-world nation... Coming from someone living in a province that is virtually a one-party "state" (the conservatives have been in power there for the last 50 years) which has oil extraction as its main (and almost sole) industry, I thought that was pretty rich.  

[Poop Fresh-Herbed Pickles]

Would you consider becoming our 51st state?

[Doctor Rock]

Would you consider becoming our 51st state?

You kidding, right? 

No offence, but one of the reasons why I feel an increased sense of alienation from the rest of Canada is the fact that they're becoming more and more "americanized"!  Plus, I want Quebec to remain french. 

[Doctor Rock]

Well, we made it to two pages, almost three.  My work here is done. 

[matthew]

You should see the conversations I have with my parents on this subject. I work myself into a tizzy to the point that I want to sever the land mass with my own two hands irregardless of the culture & language issues. It means something entirely different to my parents...and it is a strange and somewhat uncomfortable thing that their two children voted, for the second time in a row, for a party who platform includes provisions of sovereignty.

That said, I absolutely detest the nationalism involved in the sovereignty issue. Nothing particular about Quebec...nationalism has a tendency to be an ugly thing everywhere...anything that divides usually stems from an injustice.

In 1995, I voted no (for the USians: in 95 there was a referendum on Quebec independence, I voted against independence).  When the results came in, I thought: man, that was close!  Something must be done!  Some of Quebec's grievances must be acknowledged, there must be a way of bringing Quebec back into the fold, make Quebec sign the Canadian constitution, Quebec's particularities must be recognized... It has been 13 years, and nothing has happened.  Everything is as it was.   Considering what went on with the Conservatives recently, maybe even worse.  My increased sympathy for independence comes from that.  

There's also an increased feeling of alienation from the rest of Canada: in recent years, the economic and political power of western Canada has been on the rise, and, without excessive generalization, I can say that their values are much more to the right than those of eastern Canada, Quebec included. 

A few days ago, I read a comment from an Albertan where he referred to Quebec as a third-world nation... Coming from someone living in a province that is virtually a one-party "state" (the conservatives have been in power there for the last 50 years) which has oil extraction as its main (and almost sole) industry, I thought that was pretty rich.  

I must get ready for work, but I find it most interesting that, on the face of it, we seem to have either a very similar perspective on this, or a near identical one.