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« Reply #135 on: September 28, 2008, 01:32:09 PM »

about 'John is right.'
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« Reply #136 on: September 28, 2008, 01:34:37 PM »

ok.  here's the newest mccain ad.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ec3aC8ZJZTc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Ec3aC8ZJZTc</a>


obama needs to come out quickly, loudly, and often and say,  "look motherfuckers,  for the past 3 months, this has been a contest about who is willing to reach across the aisle.  find middle ground. find compromise.  which is exactly what i'm doing here.  and now somehow that undermines my ability to lead?   give me a fucking break.  i'm not allowed to agree with him?  it that what being a maverick is all about?  being stubborn and argumentative? because, while it's true that john mccain has often times 'broke party lines' and angered republicans, that doesn't mean he's 'brought people together'. it means he's pissed them off."   or something like that.
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« Reply #137 on: September 28, 2008, 01:35:23 PM »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1rZBmk0DYU[/youtube].
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« Reply #138 on: September 28, 2008, 01:41:30 PM »

i'm not sure he's saying "horseshit",  but it wouldn't surprise me.  almost everything else that came out of his mouth was horseshit.
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« Reply #139 on: September 28, 2008, 01:45:30 PM »

post debate poll results starting to come in....
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« Reply #140 on: September 28, 2008, 02:01:31 PM »

And i think Obama's talk of finding Bin Laden and other 'neocon talking points' was just him giving the right wing media nowhere to go on that issue.  I think he means it. But he's not going to make that a cornerstone of policy. he just had to show he's not wimpy.

No, he will not place the emphasis of his administration on war in Afghanistan, but he will do it and he is dead wrong on the issue and his entire "The Republicans are fighting the wrong war, the GOOD war is in Afghanistan" argument is fundamentally disturbing and it will result in a perpetuation of the Iraq intervention and result in the deaths of tens or thousands (if not 100s) more.

Sure, he has to prove himself...so does McCain...does that make it right? Certainly not. He is going to have to prove himself in a myriad other fashions that will continue the disastrous policies that former administrations poisoned the water with. He also has to prove himself to all the other corporate interests that lead the Bush administration ...and he will continue to sell the little people out, like those before him.

I find myself somewhat rooting for Obama (though I could never with clear conscience vote for the Democratic Party), but he appears flaccid on stage, no matter what the polls are saying and McCain's simplistic rhetoric and bang-your-fist-America-against-the-world-aggression will always resonate longer with the public. If the case were that John McCain was up there angrily spouting meaningless rhetoric while Barack Obama was arguing concise, nuanced arguments and observations I might be able to get more excited, but Obama sounds about as full of shit as McCain, only more awkward and convoluted (often mistaken for nuance) in his process. He had a few good lines here and there and some applause friendly rejoinders (he is far more clear-minded than McCain, whose mind is entirely clouded by rage - which is why I believe he could not bear to look Obama in the eye), but there was nothing to be enthusiastic about (in my opinion).

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« Reply #141 on: September 28, 2008, 02:03:32 PM »

People will still owe money on their houses, facing deals that gradually become impossible to pay...meanwhile their tax dollars are going via the bailout to relieve the big institutions of consequences in the deals.

That is as succinct and perfect a way of summing up this entire mess as I have yet heard.
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« Reply #142 on: September 28, 2008, 02:11:24 PM »

Young Indiana Jones is great.

Well, sure it is (I haven't seen it), but my point was that the History Channel is chock full of regular entertainment programming that has nothing at all to do with history.

That was Evan's point too (and it's a good one).  My comment wasn't just directed at you.

Bravo used to play foreign films and arts programming, now it's Project Runway.

Cable TV is a joke.


But when you look at a lot the non-historical crap History runs (Monster Quest, UFO Hunters, Ice Road Truckers), Young Indiana Jones looks pretty good in comparison.
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« Reply #143 on: September 28, 2008, 02:33:38 PM »

Young Indiana Jones is great.

Well, sure it is (I haven't seen it), but my point was that the History Channel is chock full of regular entertainment programming that has nothing at all to do with history.

That was Evan's point too (and it's a good one).  My comment wasn't just directed at you.

Bravo used to play foreign films and arts programming, now it's Project Runway.

Cable TV is a joke.


But when you look at a lot the non-historical crap History runs (Monster Quest, UFO Hunters, Ice Road Truckers), Young Indiana Jones looks pretty good in comparison.

Yay! Someone thinks I made a good point! Cheesy
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