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« Reply #15 on: June 1, 2008, 09:38:15 PM »

That quote appears on political message boards every fifty to sixty seconds.

Yup. The other one you see all of the time is this one, attributed to Churchill:
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"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."

That one pisses me off because not only did Churchill not say that, but even the Churchill Centre points out that he made very nearly the opposite switch.
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« Reply #16 on: June 1, 2008, 10:39:05 PM »

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If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
 


That quote appears on political message boards every fifty to sixty seconds.

Yep.  Maybe because it's so fucking germane!
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« Reply #17 on: June 1, 2008, 10:40:42 PM »

That quote appears on political message boards every fifty to sixty seconds.

Yup. The other one you see all of the time is this one, attributed to Churchill:
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"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."

That one pisses me off because not only did Churchill not say that, but even the Churchill Centre points out that he made very nearly the opposite switch.

Which brings us back to...

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If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Just replace state with neocon, and you have a nice explanation of US politics for at least the last 8 years.  Sometimes a cliché is a cliché because many realise it is true. 
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« Reply #18 on: June 1, 2008, 11:15:09 PM »

This was the movie trailer I was trying to remember.
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« Reply #19 on: June 1, 2008, 11:22:14 PM »

Yep.  Maybe because it's so fucking germane!

Yeah, but it is generally been employed on those boards by partisan hacks who possess  fond memories for the glory days of Bill Clinton. Yes, yes, there is no question that things are worse today, but these people actually believe the difference between good and evil in state is whether there is an R or a D next to the politician's name.
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« Reply #20 on: June 1, 2008, 11:25:46 PM »


hmmm. The first bit had me thinking it was a reimagineering of The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
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« Reply #21 on: June 1, 2008, 11:34:12 PM »

Yep.  Maybe because it's so fucking germane!

Yeah, but it is generally been employed on those boards by partisan hacks who possess  fond memories for the glory days of Bill Clinton. Yes, yes, there is no question that things are worse today, but these people actually believe the difference between good and evil in state is whether there is an R or a D next to the politician's name.

The disconnect from reality of the present administration goes much deeper than that of the Clinton administration.  Personally, I think the entire XX century is a disaster, but... In the comfortable west, things really began going downhill in the days of Thatcher and Reagan.   
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« Reply #22 on: June 1, 2008, 11:45:13 PM »

There's one thing I find really puzzling... For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to express myself without much nuance:  how have the rich managed to convince so many that what the rich want is in the best interest of everyone?  I mean, it's so pervasive that even parties that used to be left of centre (like Labour and the Parti Quebecois) have gobbled it up!
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« Reply #23 on: June 2, 2008, 09:29:58 AM »

In America, they've just convinced the rest of the working class that one day they might be rich too.   
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« Reply #24 on: June 2, 2008, 09:36:00 AM »

In America, they've just convinced the rest of the working class that one day they might be rich too.   

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« Reply #25 on: June 2, 2008, 11:53:58 AM »

That's why we have the lottery and Publishers Clearing House.
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