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By Clifford Stoll | NEWSWEEK
Feb 27, 1995 Issue
Doubleday
HYPE ALERT: WHY CYBERSPACE ISN'T, AND WILL NEVER BE, NIRVANA
After two decades online, I'm perplexed. It's not that I haven't had a gas of a good time on the Internet. I've met great people and even caught a hacker or two. But today, I'm uneasy about this most trendy and oversold community. Visionaries see a future of telecommuting workers, interactive libraries and multimedia classrooms. They speak of electronic town meetings and virtual communities. Commerce and business will shift from offices and malls to networks and modems. And the freedom of digital networks will make government more democratic.
Baloney. Do our computer pundits lack all common sense? The truth in no online database will replace your daily newspaper, no CD-ROM can take the place of a competent teacher and no computer network will change the way government works.
Consider today's online world. The Usenet, a worldwide bulletin board, allows anyone to post messages across the nation. Your word gets out, leapfrogging editors and publishers. Every voice can be heard cheaply and instantly. The result? Every voice is heard. The cacophany more closely resembles citizens band radio, complete with handles, harrasment, and anonymous threats. When most everyone shouts, few listen. How about electronic publishing? Try reading a book on disc. At best, it's an unpleasant chore: the myopic glow of a clunky computer replaces the friendly pages of a book. And you can't tote that laptop to the beach. Yet Nicholas Negroponte, director of the MIT Media Lab, predicts that we'll soon buy books and newspapers straight over the Intenet. Uh, sure.
What the Internet hucksters won't tell you is tht the Internet is one big ocean of unedited data, without any pretense of completeness. Lacking editors, reviewers or critics, the Internet has become a wasteland of unfiltered data. You don't know what to ignore and what's worth reading. Logged onto the World Wide Web, I hunt for the date of the Battle of Trafalgar. Hundreds of files show up, and it takes 15 minutes to unravel them--one's a biography written by an eighth grader, the second is a computer game that doesn't work and the third is an image of a London monument. None answers my question, and my search is periodically interrupted by messages like, "Too many connectios, try again later."
Won't the Internet be useful in governing? Internet addicts clamor for government reports. But when Andy Spano ran for county executive in Westchester County, N.Y., he put every press release and position paper onto a bulletin board. In that affluent county, with plenty of computer companies, how many voters logged in? Fewer than 30. Not a good omen.
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Then there are those pushing computers into schools. We're told that multimedia will make schoolwork easy and fun. Students will happily learn from animated characters while taught by expertly tailored software.Who needs teachers when you've got computer-aided education? Bah. These expensive toys are difficult to use in classrooms and require extensive teacher training. Sure, kids love videogames--but think of your own experience: can you recall even one educational filmstrip of decades past? I'll bet you remember the two or three great teachers who made a difference in your life.
Then there's cyberbusiness. We're promised instant catalog shopping--just point and click for great deals. We'll order airline tickets over the network, make restaurant reservations and negotiate sales contracts. Stores will become obselete. So how come my local mall does more business in an afternoon than the entire Internet handles in a month? Even if there were a trustworthy way to send money over the Internet--which there isn't--the network is missing a most essential ingredient of capitalism: salespeople.
What's missing from this electronic wonderland? Human contact. Discount the fawning techno-burble about virtual communities. Computers and networks isolate us from one another. A network chat line is a limp substitute for meeting friends over coffee. No interactive multimedia display comes close to the excitement of a live concert. And who'd prefer cybersex to the real thing? While the Internet beckons brightly, seductively flashing an icon of knowledge-as-power, this nonplace lures us to surrender our time on earth. A poor substitute it is, this virtual reality where frustration is legion and where--in the holy names of Education and Progress--important aspects of human interactions are relentlessly devalued.
STOLL is the author of "Silicon Snake Oil--Second Thoughts on the Information Highway," to be published by Doubleday in April.
© 1995
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Clifford Stoll, uber-nerd and maga-luddite! I read his "silicon snake oil" book a long time ago... He was right about a few things: the net is awash in trash, and a web page can't replace for a good book. He was, however, wrong about e-commerce. Irony of ironies, he now sells klein bottles over the net:
http://www.kleinbottle.com/
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And yeah, net friendships don't replace human contact. But they do complement it. Amongst my non-net friends, Matt is the only person I see regularly that shares my interest for obscure r'n'r. The net is great for "specialized" friendships.
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yeah, I dont know anyone in my real life thats into diapering. but in cyberworld, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a fellow enthusiast.
ok, I'm a day late, but awwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....
KITTIE!!!!!!!!!
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Quote from: capt qitn on March 25, 2008, 09:09:17 AM
yeah, I dont know anyone in my real life thats into diapering. but in cyberworld, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a fellow enthusiast.
ok, I'm a day late, but awwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....
KITTIE!!!!!!!!!
Ew! T.M.I., Eric!
Internet news: all the fake news that's unfit to print. And those markings look fake.
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Are you implying that that kitty doesn't love her mommy?!?!?!
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Quote from: capt qitn on March 25, 2008, 09:35:12 AM
Are you implying that that kitty doesn't love her mommy?!?!?!
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Don't be fooled by their cute whiskers: cats are EEEVIIIL!
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EEEEEEEEVVVVIIILLLLL! I tell you!
EEEEEEEEVVVIIILLLLLL!
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I'm sure Obama loves cats.
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(quietly loading the coffee pot with decaf)
mmm hmmm....
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I hate Tuesdays as well as Mondays.
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Yeah.
Except for the twofers. Love those.
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local paper covers the Shangri-La anniversary
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Weird. never knew that about being a relaxation parlor.
Did any crappiteers go there in that era?
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I vaguely remember when it was still a relaxation center.
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